tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2253529165034405240.post6544869011977376751..comments2008-02-19T17:08:45.382-05:00Vince Antonucci:http://www.blogger.com/profile/01577695138497215119noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2253529165034405240.post-40006631795910110132008-02-19T17:08:00.000-05:002008-02-19T17:08:00.000-05:00those are some good practical ideas Kevin.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2253529165034405240.post-48339550763126522582008-02-19T09:42:00.000-05:002008-02-19T09:42:00.000-05:00anonymous-<BR/>I think the difference will be made in the next-gen. Which means we've got to get our kids (and the new guys/gals) we are training used to this new-paradigm as a norm--as an inescapable reality--as the only way that it can be done.<BR/>We grew up in the modern and have maybe one foot in and one foot out. They will be totally immersed. Modernity still has a good grip on us.<BR/>Practically:<BR/>1. If people actually met non-believers...they'd find out this reality quickly...no matter where you live. Let's make lots of opportunities for them/us to do that.<BR/>2. Let's take people around the world. American church-starting is becoming a lot like 'missions.' There's a lot we can learn from the work being done overseas.<BR/>3. Go visit the West. Go to some of our towns that have no churches in them. See how that feels. As a believer, I don't think you'll be able to get away from the feelings of dread, or sorrow, or maybe worry for the people. Who is making a difference in their lives? What is their hope?<BR/><BR/>Anybody else have some practical advice on this????Kevin Colónhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15872990410485842454noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2253529165034405240.post-51744200942185801392008-02-19T08:32:00.000-05:002008-02-19T08:32:00.000-05:00Kevin,<BR/>Killer post. My story would take a post itself, but I'm in the mountains of VA--an over-churched area where it seems like a new church starts every month--and the same principle is true: if you're going to reach truly unreached people, it's gonna take a long time, and you have to be in it for the LONG haul, no matter if your church is "successful" or not. We as planters must try our best not to get caught up in the numbers=success game... or (as you said) we'll end up in the sea of big transfer-growth churches, having made little difference at all.<BR/><BR/>Thanks for the encouraging post.aaronaaronsaufley.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2253529165034405240.post-52961020831470547932008-02-19T07:05:00.000-05:002008-02-19T07:05:00.000-05:00Great post PR Hillbilly One unfortunat thing I see though more and more is Christians that totally agree with you but when the rubber meets the road it falls apart. Sad thing is when it happens they just shrug it off and mumble something about God having other plans for them. How do we turn this up and coming generation of Christians into people who live it out rather than like you said read about Mclaren talking about it, or hanging out in the blogosphere. It's like Wormwood has sucessfully woven together this lie that if we just read alot of cool books and blogs and then blog about those books and blogs and meet at Starbucks that we arethese super Christians that those far from God absolutely love. It's like we are still the same old Christians that we are trying to be so unlike but just in a different package. It sucksAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com