tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2253529165034405240.post5192325421545258332..comments2008-02-24T21:20:54.355-05:00Vince Antonucci:http://www.blogger.com/profile/01577695138497215119noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2253529165034405240.post-40639767763030780962008-02-24T21:20:00.000-05:002008-02-24T21:20:00.000-05:00I am actually researching things that have damaged the relationship between the church and the common culture that surrounds it. You hit on this issue in this post and I was wondering if you could lead me in the direction of some good books about that.rev. toddhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10450863848044221359noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2253529165034405240.post-36288962307640619922008-02-21T15:01:00.000-05:002008-02-21T15:01:00.000-05:00good explanation, thanksAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2253529165034405240.post-34164237811685432482008-02-21T08:23:00.000-05:002008-02-21T08:23:00.000-05:00My goal is not to 'set up' the second-conversation, it is to 'earn' the second-conversation. There's a difference to me. If, again, we're talking about motives and manipulation....that's not what we're trying to get at. If it is about genuinely going to the next level in relationship...then cool. When you meet someone you like, that you click with...you want to get together again, right? <BR/>The first conversation usually doesn't get too far. Weather, family, career. It's usually short, too. The second conversation (whether you set it up or whether you run into them again) can dive into the second-conversation questions: "So, tell me your story." "Tell me more about your faith background." You get to go deeper.<BR/>Don't read "second-conversation" as an evangelism tool. Read it to mean that you are genuinely interested in getting to know more about this person, who they are, what makes them tick....etc.<BR/>If you're NOT genuinely interested, then that's where I would start questioning the "winning one for the Gipper" motive.<BR/>Thanks for bringing that out...Kevin Colónhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15872990410485842454noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2253529165034405240.post-20948800959170578282008-02-21T06:59:00.000-05:002008-02-21T06:59:00.000-05:00Great post Kevin. I need to focus more on the relationship rather than just winning the conversation.Pete Wilsonwww.withoutwax.tvnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2253529165034405240.post-57389116788254506592008-02-21T06:12:00.000-05:002008-02-21T06:12:00.000-05:00Sounds like you hang with Donald Miller at Reed university building confessionals! Good stuff HB. Yo do mention looking for a second conversation though and that's a tedious thing because it's a fine line between just wanting to have a relationship and winning another one for the Gipper.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com