Comments on vinceantonucci.com: “Waaaaa. I’m Not Getting Fed” (Part 6)

that's good stuff jen and aaron. seriously, reall...

2008-01-23T15:33:00.000-05:00

that's good stuff jen and aaron. seriously, really good thoughts!

This just hit me, so take it for what it is worth....

2008-01-23T13:04:00.000-05:00

This just hit me, so take it for what it is worth. Many of us who are planters/future planters are considered "pastors." Pastor, as you see from the Bible, is just a fancy term for shepherd. What is a shepherd's job? It's not to shovel grass into the sheep's mouth and chew for them. It's to lead them to greener grass, fresher water, etc. The sheep are responsible for eating. The ones that the shepherd may need to help feed are the injured, the sick, the young.

This post nailed it. If we haven't "led our flock to greener pastures"--if we haven't equipped them to feed themselves--then we have a problem to fix. But if its a "sheep that just won't eat"--a Christian who should be feeding themselves AND feeding others (see Hebrews 5:11-6:2), that's a whole different (and potentially poisonous) story.

I think this "I'm not being fed" problem can also ...

2008-01-23T10:17:00.000-05:00

I think this "I'm not being fed" problem can also arise when people don't fully embrace the mission of a church like Forefront, which is to reach unchurced people. For example, at FF they explain things more, like who Paul is or what a certain word means, instead of assuming that everyone there already knows. People who have been going to church their whole lives and already know who Paul is may view that as "beginner's church" and feel they are beyond that. In other words, they forget about the new people who need to hear it. (But for the record, I think the messages are still challenging...there's plenty of stuff in there to "feed" on.)

Hey Anonymous, I'll try to answer your question to...

2008-01-23T09:42:00.000-05:00

Hey Anonymous, I'll try to answer your question tomorrow in a post.

If it's not the minister's job to feed people, and...

2008-01-23T08:35:00.000-05:00

If it's not the minister's job to feed people, and say I'm an average joe at Forefront and on a particular week I can't get a nonChristian to come to church with me and it happens to be my week off serving in the children's ministry, why should I bother coming to church?

Vince,I kinda talked a bit about this in 5(c). I ...

2008-01-23T08:03:00.000-05:00

Vince,

I kinda talked a bit about this in 5(c). I think some of it also comes down to having folks do a paradigm shift in their hearts and minds. Most folks don't truly understand how much that they yearn for and hunger for God. I am not sure how you help make that paradigm shift. Once folks realize how hungry they truly are then I think the desire to seek Him with all their "heart, mind, and soul" follows. It is a heart condition that totally requires intentionality on the part of the person. A complete and total understanding that they CANNOT do this life on their own.