Sunday, November 11, 2007

Pacesetters???

This will be kind of an odd post but ... This morning we had a team visit that's about to plant a church in North Carolina. I think this is the fourth such group we've had in the last month. I'm also getting to fly to Nashville this week to do some sessions for a Church Planter's Bootcamp.

So here's why I mention this: Back ten years ago when we were in the dreaming stages of planning a new church, we prayed about and put down on paper seven core values. One of them was that we were going to be "Pacesetters." That we would partner with, and teach and inspire and equip other churches whenever possible. Why? I'm not sure. Part of it was that there seemed to be so few churches we could look at as an example of what we wanted to do. We searched all over, but there were almost none. And when we did find a few, I loved being able to study what they were doing and learn everything I could. So we felt like it would be cool to be able to inspire churches that wanted to be really different and reach people who were really far from God. (I don't think it came from any bad, or egotistical motive; this is one thing that was really altruistic.)

What was funny about that core value was that we had four people at the time! In fact, for the first five months of our church's existence we had four people. (Well, six if you count kids.) So at the beginning we had four, and five months later we still had not added one new person! It was pathetic. But still, we put down on paper that we were "Pacesetters." It was laughable. Pitiful really.

But God has honored that desire. From our earliest days we have had people looking at what we're doing. And we've had this happen way disproportionate to our size or level of "success." Even in our first year (when we still had very little size and almost no "success") we received phone calls from a famous church-growth author, and a pastor in Australia, and many others who said, "We've heard about what you're doing and want to learn from you." Every time I was stunned, and then laughed. And I continue to be surprised every time a team drives hours to be with us, or we get those phone calls, or I get invited to speak at something, etc., etc. Especially because we have never (and still don't) do anything to "promote" ourselves. (In fact, this blog is definitely the closest thing we've ever done to self-promotion, and I fought against doing this.)

So why do I tell you all this? Well (and this especially goes out to you church planters still in the dreaming stages) - I believe that the reason we are (to some extent) pacesetters is because ten years ago we wrote down on paper that we wanted to be, and we had good motives, and God has honored that. And if you're in the dreaming stage, I would encourage you to ask God to reveal passions He's put inside you, and to dream big, and to check your movites, and then to put on paper things that you will be, even it seems laughable right now. God loves to use "pitiful," "foolish," "ridiculous," "silly," "pathetic." Trust me, if Forefront can be pacesetters, you can be whatever God has put in your heart to be.



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5 comments:

Charlie Miller said...

Vince - Thanks so much for sharing with us over lunch today after worship! Again, I really enjoyed your service! I appreciate what you guys are doing to reach folks that many others often overlook. Thats our goal for The Intersection here in Newport, North Carolina. Our team learned a lot from your church and from you and your gracious wife. Thanks again to you and your family for taking time out to help some rookie church planters!
God Bless you, brother!
-Charlie Miller
The Intersection
www.TheIntersectionOnline.org

Anonymous said...

Ok Vince I'm in that dream stage, and also caught up in the financial confusion of it all too.Is there a point you have to say being portable is costing us too much?? I can see it as a great option for young plants, but is there a time when you have to make that decision? I'd imagine being portable you guys have to run things from your homes? And then there is storage for all the stuff. Is that all spread out across Joe and Harry's garages? Or do you pay for one of those storage places? Is overhead still low with three campuses?? I'm guessing the bar let's you use their space for free because it's good for business, but do you pay a kind of rent to the other places you meet in. When is enough enough in the spending department or do I leave that decision to God? Maybe I plant where the weather is nice and just forgo the building worries?????

Vince Antonucci said...

Hey Anonymous,
I am no financial genius, but I'm pretty positive that being portable is basically always less expensive than the alternative. Yeah, there are a lot of costs with being portable, but compared to the amount of a mortgage (or even lease) payment each month? Being portable will win that contest everyday. That is part of the reason we assume we'll be portable forever (and have no plans of getting "our own" building).
To answer your questions: Pretty much all of our stuff stays in trailers all week, then gets driven to our sites. We have a little bit of stuff in our office space (and a few of us may have something in our garages, but not much). We had a brief stage where we paid for a storage place, but don't do that anymore. And we're paying around a thousand per location on Sunday mornings, free on Tuesday nights. So two to three thousand rent, again compared to a mortgage, it ain't bad.
Don't let the finances get you down. Remember where God guides He provides, and a bunch of dumb Christian cliches that are actually true (though they sound so stupid when you say them!).
Have you been able to sit down with some people who have done this, or at least look at some budgets, to get your questions answered? That may help....

Anonymous said...

I guess I'm stuck in homeowner world and thinking a mortgage is investing and leasing is....Definitely need to look into everything I guess

Vince Antonucci said...

Yeah, with homes that makes sense. But with this ... (let me first say that I'm no financial expert) ... we pay about $4,000/month to rent the school we meet in. A mortgage would be about $32,000/month. That's a HUGE difference. We can do a lot of ministry and pay a lot of staff with that $28,000 we're saving! And ... with a home, buying makes sense in part because some day you'll probably move and can sell the house and make money. But with a church building, you'll probably have it forever. So until you have it paid off ...